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Tyler Weinman: Portrait of An Accused Serial Cat Killer

June 15, 2009 By Doug in Miami: Local News  | 172 Comments

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(above) ACCUSED CAT KILLER TYLER WEINMAN

As news of the arrest of the alleged Miami cat killer spread far and wide Sunday morning, residents of Miami’s affluent suburbs to the south breathed a collective sigh of relief: 18-year-old Tyler Weinman, a senior at Miami Palmetto High School, was identified by police as having been the perpetrator behind a month-long killing spree which left dozens of pet cats in the Cutler Bay and Palmetto Bay neighborhoods gutted, partially skinned and ghoulishly posed in their owners’ front yards.

Weinman’s parents, divorced in 2006, each resided in the two affected neighborhoods.  Weinman lived with his mother, Alba Weinman, a life coach and one-time Crime Watch leader, on a street in the Whispering Pines section of Cutler Bay, where four of the killings had taken place.  His father Douglas, a dentist, lived with the suspect’s stepmother approximately 2 miles away in Palmetto Bay, in an area also targeted by the killer. 

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Detained at a party in Coral Gables just after midnight Sunday, Weinman was charged with marijuana possession, along with 19 counts of animal cruelty, 19 counts of improperly disposing of an animal’s body, and four counts of burglary.  Scheduled to be arraigned today (Monday), his bond has been set at $154,500.  His attorney, David Macey, claims that his client is innocent, as have many of Weinman’s friends, who have started a Facebook group seeking “justice for Tyler”.  Weinman was booked at 1:23 p.m. Sunday at the Turner Guilford Knight Correctional Center and the arrest affidavit, according to the State Attorney‘s Office, remains sealed. 

According to the Sun-Sentinel, animal cruelty is a felony with a maximum sentence of five years for each cat.

At yesterday’s press conference, police declined to comment exactly how they were able to determine that Weinman was the individual behind the killings, although they did mention that community tips, as well as his own participation in various online social networking sites—including youtube, myspace, and Facebook—helped them make the case.  Ironically, he had joined a 1600-strong Facebook group called “Catch the Cat Killer!” prior to his detention.

Weinman had first been interviewed on the night of his senior prom a few weeks ago, and placed under surveillance since that time, even as more mutilations were occurring in the area.  Police have stated that more arrests may be forthcoming in the case, although dogs may have been responsible for some of the 33 known killings.
A STUDY IN CONTRADICTIONS

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Serial killers are typically profiled as sociopathic white males in their 20’s and 30’s, agitated loners, socially-impaired individuals who generally start with animals and work their way up to people.

Tyler’s friends are quick to point out that he doesn’t fit the m.o., describing him as an outgoing individual and occasional Swim Gym Aquatic Summer camp counselor who was known to be affectionate toward pets and somewhat of a class clown.

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(above) TYLER WEINMAN LIKED TO JOKE AROUND, SAY FRIENDS

Said classmate Vincent Warger:

‘‘He’s nice guy. I’ve known him since sixth grade.  He was the kind of kid I hung out with in a group. He’s pretty cool, a chill guy. Seemed like a pretty normal kid. I’ve been to a few parties at his house.’‘

‘‘I don’t think they have the right person,’’ wrote Kathy Hernandez, who’d known him since middle school, in an e-mail. ``It does not at all seem like he would do something like this. He was a great kid…He was always so nice to my animals.  I have three cats and they loved him.’‘

19-year-old neighbor Kyle Hantzis added, “I don’t think, the way he acts and his demeanor, I don’t think he could physically do it.”

Other neighbors described him as “quiet” and “well-spoken.”

However, seemingly at odds with the conscientious image painted by his neighbors and classmates, Weinman chose to smirk in his mugshot.

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(above) WEINMAN SMILES FOR HIS MUGSHOT

PUTTING A FACE ON CRIME

Some of the owners of the mutilated cats expressed a cautious optimism over Weinman’s arrest, though it does little to ease their loss.

Among the pets targeted was Tommy, a black and white tuxedo cat given by Ronald and Donna Gleason to their 6-year-old daughter, who’d desperately wanted a kitten.  The Gleasons had been searching for a shelter cat who got along with their dog, but none of the ones they’d brought home were compatible.  They prayed that they’d find a nice cat that liked their dog and then one day Tommy showed up at their door and soon became part of the family.  Their daughter loved and played with her new pet every morning, they said.  Then, on May 25, Ronald Gleason found Tommy’s mangled body in their yard.  At first he thought he’d been attacked by a dog: ““Part of his skin was missing underneath ... and part of his legs,” Gleason recalled. “He was partially skinned.”

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(above) TOMMY WAS A LITTLE GIRL’S GIFT

Donna Gleason told her daughter that Tommy had been killed by an animal.  “Well,” she reflected in a June 11th CNN interview, “An animal did kill him.”

Another Palmetto Bay resident, 42-year-old Alicia Glatzer, spoke of a pretty white cat with a black and tan tail that she and her husband had adopted three years ago.  They discovered her outside their home a month ago.  She had been skinned and part of her face was missing.  At first, the Glatzers thought she’d been hit by a car, but shortly afterward learned about the killings.

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(above) ALICIA GLATZER HOLDS UP A PICTURE OF HER CAT, SARAH

A short distance away, Mary Lou Shad and her husband Thomas mourned the loss of their pet, Miss Kitty.  In a June 10 interview with the Associated Press, Mary Lou recounted that Thomas had found Miss Kitty in a neighbor’s yard, her head smashed and her legs skinned.  “Her leg looked like a chicken leg with no skin on it,” Shad stated. “We had to dig her up so they could take pictures. It was heartbreaking.”

The black cat had once been a stray, but the couple had since adopted her as a pet.  “Every time I hear about someone else, I’m in their shoes and I see my cat again.  I feel terrorized to the point where everywhere I go, I’m looking for dead cats on the side of the road.”

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(above) A SOUTH MIAMI RESIDENT HOLDS A PHOTO OF HER CATS, ONE OF WHICH WAS KILLED

NATURAL BORN KILLERS?

To many, almost as shocking as these barbaric killings were the reactions of some in the community.  One man, using the name “Barry Sharon”,  created a Facebook Group called “Fans of the Miami Cat Serial Killer” which he described as “a group for people who really don’t like cats…and is happy someone is doing something about it!”

Almost inconceivably, more than a few individuals appear to cite cats’ natural predatory inclinations to hunt rodents and birds as tacit rationales for the killings, failing to take into consideration that these are people’s pets, domestic animals with rights.

On justnews.com, in reference to the news of Weinman’s arrest, one comment read:

“There is a huge cat infestation in South Florida. I love animals and have a cat myself. I hate the infestation. At least someone was trying to do something about it. Unfortunately, he was doing it the wrong way.”

Another poster in the miamibeach411.com forums, in seeming effort to draw a moral equivalency, wrote:

“The people who kill the cats are sick and the story is disturbing, however, owners not supposed to let strait (sic) cats out.

‘How many birds and other wildlife do domestic cats kill each year in the U.S.? Exact numbers are unknown, but scientists estimate that nationwide, cats kill hundreds of millions of birds and more than a billion small mammals, such as rabbits, squirrels, and chipmunks, each year.  Cats kill common species such as Cardinal, Blue Jay, and House Wren, as well as rare and endangered species such as Piping Plover, Florida Scrub-Jay, and California Least Tern.’”

Somehow I doubt the killer was motivated by compassion for the blue jays.

Moveover, I personally have yet to see my cats come home with a bird in their mouths, much less a squirrel, so I don’t feel they all qualify as savage hunters.  In fact, I’ve observed that domesticity has a way of mending even the most adversarial relationships. 

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(above) AN UNLIKELY FRIENDSHIP

Meanwhile, Miami-Dade County Commissioner Katy Soren optimistically proclaimed in the Sunday press conference, “Thankfully, for this community, the terror has come to an end.” 

Sadly, when I think about the attitudes described above, I wonder if it really has.

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If anyone has additional information concerning these crimes, please contact Crime Stoppers at 305-471-8477 (TIPS).

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Douglas Eames is a freelance writer, homespun philosopher and budget bon vivant who divides his time between Southern California and South Beach.

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172 Comments on

"Tyler Weinman: Portrait of An Accused Serial Cat Killer"

Carlos Miller says:

Great story Doug!

Posted on 06/15/2009 at 10:33 AM

Aaron in Miramar says:

Does anybody else find it ironic that his mother is a “life coach”?  Parents are obviously not always to blame but to have the mission of fixing other people’s lives through psychobabble while your punk kid is off skinning Mr. Jinxy and terrorizing the neighborhood is borderline entertaining. 

I’m not buying Sherlock Holmes-esque police work on this.  They want to allude to “investigative” work scouring MySpace, Facebook, etc. in an effort to garner some credit for breaking the case.  Does anybody not believe that one of his loser friends turned him in as the reward money reached the $10k mark?  That’s not good police work but the effects of high reward and a teen criminal with teenage friends.  This would have been stopped weeks ago before it hit Fox News, CNN, etc. if the police were so vigilant as they now want to appear to be.  In the end his circle of amateur taxidermy was not really that large an area.  I guess the cops were too busy pulling people over for speeding on Old Cutler and US-1 to bother with a story that hadn’t yet received national media attention.

Posted on 06/15/2009 at 10:38 AM

Doug says:

Hi Aaron, thanks for sharing some very astute observations! There are many questions yet to be answered, and I hope that we learn more about these issues over the coming weeks.  One that’s been burning in my mind: How certain are police that Weinman worked alone?

Posted on 06/15/2009 at 11:05 AM

Doug says:

Thanks, Carlos!

Posted on 06/15/2009 at 11:09 AM

luvmycats says:

This is an an excellent article Doug. Thank you for putting the focus on where it belongs. I am shocked by these cruel & callous remarks I’ve seen in the comments sections.

These people are almost as depraved as Tyler. I hope he ends up with a cell mate that loves animals.

People that are cruel to defenseless animals have the propensity to be cruel to vulnerable people (children, the elderly/ disabled).

In this case, the monster left his victims where their beloved families would discover his sadistic work. It would only be a matter of time before he grew bored & upped his ante.

Posted on 06/15/2009 at 11:20 AM

Doug says:

Luvmycats, thanks for reading my story.  It is odd what kinds of reactions events such as these can elicit.

Posted on 06/15/2009 at 11:29 AM

Maria de los Angeles says:

Great article, Doug! Thanks for wrapping up all the info about the case so far.  I agree with Aaron—something is fishy about using social media as evidence.

Posted on 06/15/2009 at 12:13 PM

Aaron in Miramar says:

No problem, Doug.  Nice article.  I agree with your question about this kid working alone.  I just wonder if the police will even care as they got their man.  I’m sure it will be part of his defense as he faces a 4-5 year prison sentence.  The best thing that could happen to this maniac would be that another weirdo in the neighborhood decides to be a copycat.  That probably would save him a prison sentence and would more than likely give him time in a place like this:

http://www.miamibeach411.com/news/index.php?/news/comments/dade-county-jail/

One other thing I found compelling about this story was the amount of cat deaths that aren’t being attributed to him but to dogs.  It was somewhere in the same range as he is being held responsible for.  I love pets more than the next guy (enough so that I’m for justifiable homicide if you catch somebody intentionally injuring a domesticated animal) but have to hold these pet “owners” to some sort of responsibility.  Bottom line, how much do you really love the pet if it is living outside full-time and even remains doing so after Dexter junior is publicized as running around your neighborhood with a pocket knife in hand?

Posted on 06/15/2009 at 12:18 PM

Doug says:

To answer that question, Aaron, you really have to rent Finding Nemo.  Some creatures just aren’t happy unless they’re outside, and they’ll protest loudly until they get their way…

Posted on 06/15/2009 at 12:33 PM

Gus Moore says:

Great reporting, Doug.

It sure doesn’t seem like Tyler is the type of kid who would do something like this.

I’ll sleep better when I hear some evidence, explaining how he did it.

Aaron, I completely agree with everything you say, except for the “loving your pets” part. I love my cats and try to live by the saying “if you love something set it free, if it comes back to you it’s yours, if it doesn’t it never was.”

But if you need someone on your “justifiable homicide if you catch somebody intentionally injuring a domesticated animal” team, I got your back.

luvmycats, there are some mean dudes locked up, who have a soft spot for animals. I’m guessing a cat killer is going to get the same treatment as a pedophile, from some of the inmates.

Posted on 06/15/2009 at 2:13 PM

Sungal says:

It’s interesting that there were sudden dog attacks in the area at the same time the evil cat killer was operating. I wonder if he is behind those as well.

He graduated from HS, but did he have plans to go to college? I’d like to know his motive..no one seems to mention a mental illness or mean streak. I just don’t understand why a normal kid with decent parents and friends would commit such a henious crime.

My heart goes out to all the families who lost a part of their family. I really can’t imagine why someone do such things to animals who are so cute, fluffy, and completely innocent.

I wonder if a crime like this has ever been committed in the US. I’m proud to be a citizen of a country that has laws protecting animals and stiff sentences for offenders.

Posted on 06/15/2009 at 2:14 PM

Carlos Miller says:

Actually, he didn’t graduate from Palmetto. He apparently got kicked out a few years back for marijuana possession.

It is not clear if he was attending some other school but he apparently went to some type of prom in recent weeks.

Palmetto’s prom was April 18th, a few weeks before the first killing was reported.

Posted on 06/15/2009 at 2:48 PM

Carlos Miller says:

I also wonder about this rash of dogs supposedly killing cats. There were several cases in Broward.

I’ve owned several dogs in my life and they all loved to chase cats, but I’ve never seen a dog actually catch a cat.

Posted on 06/15/2009 at 2:50 PM

Doug says:

Thanks for your comments, Gus, Maria and Sungal.  While Tyler’s Facebook page indicates that he is a graduate, a few news reports have quoted a spokesperson from the Miami-Dade school system as saying that he hadn’t graduated.

WFOR is reporting the bond was raised during the court hearing to $249K.  Also, the story reports that “officials told CBS4 News that Weinman was transferred to the 9th floor of the Miami-Dade County Jail Monday morning which is usually reserved for mentally ill patients.”

Posted on 06/15/2009 at 2:51 PM

Sungal says:

So Doug, is he in jail until that amount of money is raised? It will be telling to see if there are anymore cat killings while he’s in jail.

Posted on 06/15/2009 at 3:31 PM

Doug says:

I believe that the family only has to raise 10% of it if they go through a bail bondsman.  Then, if he disappears before the trial, they’re responsible for the entire amount.  I’m no expert on those matters, though.

Posted on 06/15/2009 at 3:36 PM

Aaron in Miramar says:

His family is probably looking at having to front around $25k as his bond was recently raised to around $250k.  I’m not sure if they can use their homes for collateral in lieu of cash or not. I’m still less concerned if he rots in the pysch ward tied to a bed (which is strange place for an innocent person to end up so quickly) than if anybody has seen these cats alive and well:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/74/Riff_Raff_and_Cleo_-_Catillac_Cats.jpg

Gus and Doug- I’ve always been a dog person and after conferring with some cat owners will defer to you as to the culpable negligence that should be placed upon the Palmetto Bay cat owners.  I do however disagree with anybody that keeps a dog outdoors 100% of the time.

Posted on 06/15/2009 at 3:50 PM

Gus says:

Cogratualtions, Doug. South Florida Daily Blog mentioned your article in their “Question of the Day.”

Today, Miami Beach 411 has a detailed look at Tyler and the crime itself that gives us some background on the case.

Tyler has merely been charged at this point, but should he be convicted, the question then becomes….

What punishment, if any, should 18-year-old Tyler Weinman be subject to?

Posted on 06/15/2009 at 4:27 PM

Doug says:

Aaron, I heartily agree with you about the practice some people have of leaving their dogs outside all the time—especially the ones who are tied up to a chain and left to fend for themselves, though I don’t equate that to letting your cat out for a stroll around the neighborhood.  Unlike pit bulls, they usually keep to themselves, unless they’re fighters or not fixed.  Then, those liability issues certainly do come up.

Thanks for the news on the SFDB mention, Gus.  I think we need to know more before we can realistically answer that question, like how strong the evidence is, if anyone else was involved and what exactly was going on in his head.

Posted on 06/15/2009 at 4:44 PM

Maria de los Angeles says:

Carlos, Doug ... do we know how many dog attacks happen on a regular basis in the same neighborhood?

Posted on 06/15/2009 at 4:50 PM

Doug says:

Maria, it would seem like in an affluent area like Palmetto Bay or Cutler Bay that it would be unusual to have a killer dog running around loose.

Posted on 06/15/2009 at 4:58 PM

Laurie says:

Thanks for the article Doug! Please keep us posted on future updates (I’m avoiding this topic in the forums).

Posted on 06/15/2009 at 9:46 PM

Doug says:

Glad you liked it, Laurie.  I’ll post new developments as I hear them.

Posted on 06/15/2009 at 9:53 PM

Doug says:

WFOR, the local CBS affiliate, is now offering some possible motives and methods for the killings: First, they’re interviewing friends of Weinman who believe that he was troubled about his parents’ recent divorce and resented his stepmother, who had several cats.  They say the killings began on Mother’s Day, and that was no coincidence.

Palmetto High is only one of a handful of high schools in which cats are dissected in Biology, and Tyler Weinman took that class.

They also interviewed a neighbor who said he’d seen Weinman in his front yard putting poisoned food into catfood bowls in effort to lure his cat.  Once the cats succombed to the poison, he would then take them away and mutilate them, only to return the bodies later.

The WFOR website also has a map showing where many of the killings took place.

Posted on 06/15/2009 at 10:22 PM

Sungal says:

Wow, all because he didn’t like his step mom. I think as soon as parents get divorced, the child should see a therapist. I don’t know if I buy this motive. So many teenagers hate their parents/step parents. I don’t feel sorry for him. And why wouldn’t he just kill her cats?

Posted on 06/16/2009 at 12:11 AM

mike wilson says:

I say let’s do a little surgery on that punk,Weinman,when he gets out on bail!

Posted on 06/16/2009 at 7:45 AM

Caroline says:

The killer, whether it be Weinman or not, is a disgusting disgrace to mankind. For those who think he does not fit the profile, do a little research on serial killers. He’s almost a perfect fit; educated, wealthy; recently divorced parents; oh and not to mention he has a home in both of the neighborhoods where the killings were done. I hope he gets it real bad in prison and then burns in hell. Or better yet, lets put him in a cage with a lion or tiger, a cat perhaps a little to big for him to pick on smile

Posted on 06/16/2009 at 9:14 AM

Maria de los Angeles says:

So as I suspected, this kid knows how to dissect cats.

Posted on 06/16/2009 at 9:46 AM

Doug says:

Weinman has just posted bond.  But they say it may be another day or two for his house arrest registration to be complete.  He’ll wear a monitoring bracelet so his whereabouts can be tracked.  I can’t imagine him going back to those neighborhoods.  He’ll have a continuous mob staked out around his house.

Posted on 06/16/2009 at 12:25 PM

Pinecrest mom says:

please, I’ve been in adolescent mental health for decades and sometimes kids just start doing bad things and have an angry streak regardless of how well the parents did. Divorce doesn’t create damaged children. Just because kids are likeable or innocent looking doesn’t mean they don’t do wrong. Just because he is from an upper middle class neighborhood doesn’t mean he has the makings of a serial killer. Our high school kids in the “good” schools are getting high and looking for adventure. We’ve kept them inside studying to get into FL, playing video games, volunteering to get that good college application. Our kids don’t know how to find fun and adventure. This boy obviously did something very sick and disturbing but it’s him, not the parents or the neighborhood.  We’ve created a generation of lost over acheiving young adults and we haven’t begun to pay the price for it. 

Why are we shocked when someone from a “good” neighborhood gets arrested? Maybe because we don’t want it to be happening in our neighborhood. We want the bad kids in the other areas of town.

He got a lot of media attention, which could also be fueling his sense of adventure and desire to find a place for himself. 

I’m not excusing him but it’s not fair to generalize and assume that we know why he did it? 

You might be surprised how many undesirable thoughts and behaviors your family members and friends would bring up in therapy.  We’re all a little unsettled.

Why did he act on it is the question?
How did society encourage him to continue?

BTW I do not know this kid or his parents.

Posted on 06/16/2009 at 6:14 PM

Doug says:

Hi Pinecrest Mom, I believe the WFOR report was suggesting that the recent divorce was a motive for his behavior rather than the cause of his mental issues.  As sungal said, people have parents who divorce all the time (myself included) and often deal with resentment issues, but it doesn’t make a normal person want to go out and mutilate pets.  However, it may affect a person who already has deep-seated emotional problems differently. 

It’s also true that serial killers can appear to be very socialized and well-adjusted.  Perhaps it’s even their lack of normal venting that fuels them to act out in these ways.

If that’s the situation with Weinman, I guess time will tell.

Thankfully, the cat killings now appear to have stopped.

Posted on 06/16/2009 at 6:39 PM

Doug says:

I would also agree that the person responsible doesn’t have the makings of a serial killer because of the neighborhood he came from.  He has the makings of a serial killer because he’s been serial killing.

Posted on 06/16/2009 at 6:46 PM

Pinecrest not wealthy mom says:

I agree with you Doug.

Posted on 06/16/2009 at 7:25 PM

Robert Gonzalez says:

To think what he did to those poor animals and how much pain he has visited upon their owners is just awful.  It’s a good thing I can’t get my hands on him because I would give him a bit of payback.  I hope he gets some prison justice or does the honorable thing and removes himself from the planet.  I hear he’s under suicide watch.  I really hope that is true.

Posted on 06/16/2009 at 7:41 PM

T.L. says:

There is something spiritually wrong with people whom perpetrate such heinous and disturbing crimes. Weinman’s smirk speaks volumes and shows that he finds this humourous. I hope that if he is guilty he and those (if any) whom played a role in this will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. This could be a harbinger of things to come. Look at serial killers like Jeffrey Dahmer. More often than not serial killers, ironically grow up in stable and nurturing homes. Go figure. This is evil and goes to show that lurking behind the most seemingly well adjusted person lies a maladjusted creep.

Posted on 06/16/2009 at 7:47 PM

Maneshevitz says:

I would like to know about the $10,000 REWARD. Has someone claimed it? If so, is this individual a “Stool Pigeon”? Normally cops are fairly dumb and rely on the public or “stoolies” for the information needed to make a arrest.

Posted on 06/17/2009 at 3:18 AM

LittleD says:

I completely agree with what Caroline posted above.

And about the divorce thing?  I think the media just put that in there because it’s so easy to begin blaming it on that, as they are already doing, as it appears on WFOR.  That’s an EXCUSE!  I am mentally ill and have been since a small child, I come from divorced parents, I was raised by in a poverty-stricken home by a single mother, ad nauseum.  I hate to even pick a FLOWER because I don’t want to kill it, let alone to murder and mutilate domesticated cats in the neighborhood?!?!?!  NO!  I have 2 cats of my own, I’m happy, well-adjusted, and doing just fine in life.  This sick SOB has NO excuse for what he did.  NO mental illness/disorder is a reason for what he did.  He is just plain SICK!  I know many people with every mental disorder you can think of, but none are as sick as this perverted teen is.  He’ll get what’s coming to him in prison.  Most prisoners will view him and torture, perhaps kill, him just as they would a serial pedophile.  And I do not doubt his guilt at all.  Why? His smile in his mug shot!  I’d be bawling if I were innocent and accused of such a crime, not SMILING!  Once again, he’s a sick SOB who doesn’t deserve the life he was given.  Please keep us updated Doug.  I hate poking around the media looking for the latest update, so I’ll mark your page and check back later.  Thanks!

Posted on 06/17/2009 at 4:05 AM

MY BUSINESS says:

I live, work and grew up where this kid lives. I’m 26 years old and if there is one thing i know, it is that in the area, there are 2 things which are abundant, boredom and drugs. Obviously the kid was arrested on marijuana possession so that takes care of the drugs. In this area, everyone has something to prove to no one and I am sure that in the end, if it was this guy, he wasn’t alone when he did it…i work at an animal clinic, and trust me, there is no way to handle a cat that doesn’t wish to be handled even with training and equipment without sustaining some sort of injuries. at least 3 out of 5 times, you would end up with some sort of mark…cats arent dogs they have teeth and claws. Then again lets just choose the easy blame and put it on music and movies. I suggest the band “Slipknot” and the movie “Gummo”

Posted on 06/17/2009 at 5:39 AM

noone says:

the kids grandma’s cat was put to sleep recently…at the end of may

Posted on 06/17/2009 at 5:41 AM

Doug says:

Maneshevitz, I was wondering about the status on the reward money, too.  There’s a lot we aren’t being told just yet.

LittleD, I completely agree with you—many if not most people with mental illness are gentle people and kind to animals.  But there are different kinds of illnesses.  A sociopath is very different from a person who suffers from schizophrenia or bipolar disorder.

MY BUSINESS, I wondered about how the killer was able to lure the cats, too—and then I read that they believe he was putting out poisoned food in bowls and calling them.  When the poison took effect, he would then grab them.

Posted on 06/17/2009 at 8:33 AM

Pinecrest not wealthy mom says:

my son goes to Palmette but doesn’t know this kid. He and his buddies told me it was Ty a couple weeks ago. The word was out. The police must have needed evidence to make the arrest.

Posted on 06/17/2009 at 9:32 AM

LittleD says:

Doug, you’re completely correct.  A sociopath is someone on another whole level of consciousness, if you will.  I, myself, don’t consider that a mental illness/disorder, although many others do.  I consider it more of a mental “state” as these people, more often than not, at least from everyhing I’ve heard and read, are born this way.  No person, no situation, and no thing made them this way.  Some are able to hide the “symptoms” very well, while others’ awkward behaviors are observed as young as infants.  Crazy…

Posted on 06/17/2009 at 10:49 AM

Laurie says:

I’m with Pinecrest Mom 100%. Generationally speaking, kids today are more self-centered and have no concept of consequences for their actions. Perhaps he was getting off on the attention more than anything else and here we continue…

Posted on 06/17/2009 at 10:58 AM

Maria de los Angeles says:

Doug, do we know if any forensic exams were performed on the cats to prove that they were poisoned?

Posted on 06/17/2009 at 11:04 AM

Doug says:

Maria, I’ve seen footage of the animals being examined on the scene and carried off, so I’m sure it’s there.  It’s just one of those things that hasn’t come out yet.  They say that the affidavit is sealed because the case is still under investigation.

While many of his friends and family believe him to be a great kid, he has apparently spent some time in “juvie”.

I saw on an update that the judge is expected to release Weinman today, following the psych eval, and that he will be taken to a relative’s house for his house arrest, rather than either of his parent’s houses.

Posted on 06/17/2009 at 11:31 AM

Doug says:

UPDATE: Weinman was released this morning.

Posted on 06/17/2009 at 11:38 AM

Carlos Miller says:

Ted Bundy blamed pornography.

They say this kid blamed his parent’s divorce.

Porn and divorce do not turn normal people into serial killers.

Serial killers are born that way. It has to be some dysfunction in their brains.

Posted on 06/17/2009 at 11:44 AM

Pinecrest not wealthy mom says:

Hurting animals is awful, dissecting and cutting them up is weird but displaying them is the most disturbing part to me. It wasn’t just about him and the animal. He was targeting other victims also. I’d love to find out what goes on in his psych eval. There is some research about brain abnormalities and aggression and tolerance for pain.
There’s lots of research on animal torture and kids. It’s not very hopeful.

I write this with a small amount of shame because I really enjoy ending the life of roaches and toads BUT I feel bad watching them squirm. I just want them gone not to suffer. There’s a compassion in most people that seems to be turned off in some. I’m sure drugs helps them suppress their emotions.

Even hunters don’t want their pry to suffer.

Posted on 06/17/2009 at 12:24 PM

Pinecrest not wealthy mom says:

I’d be intersted in finding out how people who torture animals and are serial killers responded to Bambi as a child. That’s probably one of the first compassion for animal stories most children hear about.

Posted on 06/17/2009 at 12:26 PM

Maria de los Angeles says:

Most of us eat dead animals.  This does not make us perform sadistic murder rituals.

Posted on 06/17/2009 at 12:44 PM

Maneshevitz says:

This mornings release of Weinman and the comments on this blog seem to want to reason about this individuals personality and the acts committed. There are quite a few Dr. Jekyl & Mr. Hyde types out there. Many people are fooled everyday.

Posted on 06/17/2009 at 12:51 PM

Doug says:

UPDATE: WFOR is reporting that the police have released more details about the case.  They say the evidence is completely circumstantial—at least until DNA labwork comes back.

They found several knives hidden in his room.

They also attached a tracking device to his car a few weeks ago and found that the places he went were consistent with when and where the cats’ bodies were being dumped.  When questioned about his whereabouts on those occasions, police say Weinman lied.

They’re currently testing items found in Weiman’s house for cat blood and to see if the DNA matches any collected from the mutilated cats.

There are two additional people of interest being investigated as possible accomplices.  It is believed there is a separate location where the cats were killed.  His computer is also being forensically reviewed for what it contains.

No word on how long it will take for all the testing to be completed.

Posted on 06/17/2009 at 4:26 PM

Sungal says:

Guilty, guilty, guilty!

Posted on 06/17/2009 at 6:15 PM

Doug says:

The thing that gets me, though, is why didn’t they track his movements in person? They could’ve had direct photographic evidence, instead of having to rely on the tracking device.

Oh, they said that during the interview a few weeks ago, they’d seen numerous scratch marks on his hands, arms, chest and neck that were consistent with someone who’d been in an altercation with a cat.

Posted on 06/17/2009 at 6:27 PM

Gus says:

I hope they photographed those scratches.

It seems unlikely that a kid would go on committing crimes, after being questioned by the police.

I am also skeptical about the rumors that he was poisoning the cats in order to subdue them. Does poison work that quick?

Everyone has commented about him smirking in the mug shot. Perhaps he was smirking because he was innocent, and saw dollar signs.

Could the police have arrested the wrong person?

Posted on 06/17/2009 at 6:59 PM

Maneshevitz says:

I would think that cats who did not know the human captor would resist angrily. Cats are independent creatures, but if they are raised from tiny kittens they become attached to their masters. In the instant case, I have a hunch that the cats were smothered, possibly by a plastic bag or similar material and not poisoned. Poison leaves a residue and can easily be traced from the carcasses.

Posted on 06/17/2009 at 7:11 PM

Doug says:

He smirked again today in the court hallway when he was going in for his hearing.

The cat scratches also suggest that at least some of the cats weren’t completely unconscious before he (allegedly) nabbed them.

A normal person might feel compelled to stop killing after being interviewed by the police, but a sociopath probably has delusions of omnipotence.

Posted on 06/17/2009 at 7:11 PM

Carlos Miller says:

If smirking were a crime, then we would have impeached Bush long before he started the war.

Posted on 06/17/2009 at 7:45 PM

Maneshevitz says:

Maybe “smirking” isn’t a crime but his arrest and the case against him is hardly minor, but serious. Under the circumstances, if I was innocent or guilty, I could never “smirk”. Yes, George W. Bush could get away with it, but then again he is much like Weinman.

Posted on 06/18/2009 at 12:52 AM

Brian says:

Here’s something to think abou?...who is going to pay for the added costs of protecting this psychopath? No doubt, some people will find out where he is now living (hiding), and then police will have to be dispatched, with your taxpayer dollars, to protect this little s**t.

Posted on 06/18/2009 at 2:33 AM

Doug says:

Smirking’s not a crime, just a clue.

Posted on 06/18/2009 at 7:39 AM

Jo says:

I wonder if in the future protests will be planned outside his house. People who live in the neighborhood have every right under the First Amendment to make their opinions heard. I’m surprised residents haven’t mobilized and planned such an event to demonstrate their disgust at his release and his being so near to the families he terrorized.

Posted on 06/18/2009 at 6:28 PM

Gus says:

“I wonder if in the future protests will be planned outside his house. People who live in the neighborhood have every right under the First Amendment to make their opinions heard. I’m surprised residents haven’t mobilized and planned such an event to demonstrate their disgust at his release and his being so near to the families he terrorized.”

Yeah, like when the villagers rose up to kill Frankenstein. The only difference is,  Frankenstein had a heart. Whoever did these is evil.

I’m also surprised more residents and journalists haven’t staked out his home.

Posted on 06/18/2009 at 7:00 PM

Brian says:

Gus and Joe,

Unfortunately, I don’t live in the area, otherwise I would be the first person to try and organize a protest at the house where this “sicko” is living. However, I would recommend contacting local media and requesting that they continue to monitor this story. I do find it interesting that the media seems more inclined to “drop” this story from sight, especially since this little pri*k was sent free. It makes me question their “agenda” and wonder if the fact that this is a rich white kid whose parents are seemingly “well-connected” has anything to do with it?”

Posted on 06/18/2009 at 7:09 PM

Aaron in Miramar says:

I seem to remember the Casey/Caylee Anthony neighborhood turning into a circus-then again that was a murdered child. I think this kid is guilty but don’t see the point in showing up to his house to make my personal feelings known while disrupting the lives of the innocent neighbors.  Wait for him to be convicted and then protest the courthouse if he gets less time than Donte Stallworth got for running down a jaywalker.

Posted on 06/18/2009 at 7:09 PM

Doug says:

I for one would wait until the lab results come back.  The evidence as it stands now seems damning enough, but it’s circumstantial.  The nail in the coffin—or lack thereof—will come out in the lab results.  And then, if cat blood is found on anything, protests would be appropriate.  I hope it doesn’t turn into a Casey Anthony scenario, though.  That felt so Jerry Springer.

Posted on 06/18/2009 at 7:25 PM

Brian says:

Well Doug,

Based on the overwhelming “circumstantial” evidence, I think it is pretty safe to say that the police have done the necessary “homework” and have the right man, or perhaps, MONSTER, would be a better description. And let us suppose, hypothetically, that DNA evidence does not link Weinman to the crimes. In my opinion, all that proves, is that he is a “smart” psychopath. Remember O.J. Simpson? I think anyone with a brain knows O.J. was guilty, and yet, because the case was built on “circumstantial” evidence, he was found innocent by a jury of dim-witted cowards. I, for one, don’t necessarily rely on our “wonderful” justice system to mete out punishment. I already have my doubts about where this is going, based on the fact that the presiding judge agreed that this psychopath is “sane” and therefore should be “allowed” to go home, or wherever this coward is hiding. If he was truly “sane” he would not have committed these atrocious acts against defenseless, domesticated animals. Most defendants without the same monied legal representation would find themselves confined to a cell for much lesser charges, and yet, Mr. Weinman gets a free pass to go home. I kind of wonder if there’s a hope on the part of some that given time, this will just go away. DON’T LET THAT HAPPEN. FIND OUT WHERE HE IS AND ACT UPON YOUR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS. SHAME THIS MONSTER AND HIS FAMILY WHO SO SMUGGLY SUPPORT HIM!!!!! IF ENOUGH PEOPLE SHOW UP, THERE WILL BE ADDED PRESSURE TO BRING WEINMAN BACK TO JAIL AND PUSH FOR APPROPRIATE PUNISHMENT.

Posted on 06/18/2009 at 7:48 PM

Doug says:

Brian, thanks for your impassioned comment.  I understand your emotion, and as a new kitty daddy, I can relate to some of what you’re saying.

Concerning the OJ trial, I was hooked on that! Therefore, I feel it important to point out that he was found “not guilty” in the criminal trial, which is very different from “innocent”.  Unfortunately, it produced the same end result.

Moreover, there was uncontested blood evidence collected at the scene of the crime linking OJ to the murders (before Fuhrman even arrived), which was ignored by the jury.

It’s my belief that if Weinman was indeed responsible for the cat murders, there will inevitably be cat blood somewhere among the collected evidence.  Keep in mind I’m not saying the DNA has to be linked, only the presence of cat blood established. 

I’ve watched enough CSI to know that even when you clean an area in effort to remove it, it still shows up under an ultraviolet light.

Even a smart monster won’t be able to eradicate that.  However, if the police did make a rush to judgment, as in the case of Richard Jewell and many others, I wouldn’t want to see anyone’s life unjustly ruined.  I just want to see for myself that they have their facts straight.  Otherwise, it’s like going into Iraq looking for weapons of mass destruction, saying that we can’t wait for the proof to come in the form of a mushroom cloud…

Posted on 06/18/2009 at 8:57 PM

Hector says:

“FIND OUT WHERE HE IS AND ACT UPON YOUR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS. SHAME THIS MONSTER AND HIS FAMILY WHO SO SMUGGLY SUPPORT HIM!!!!! IF ENOUGH PEOPLE SHOW UP, THERE WILL BE ADDED PRESSURE TO BRING WEINMAN BACK TO JAIL AND PUSH FOR APPROPRIATE PUNISHMENT.”

The police have done a lot of background work and monitoring. Their reputations are on the line and therefore it’s probably fair to say at this point that he was involved in the murders.

However if people want more evidence ie DNA evidence then I understand that. But after that then it’s reasonable to expect (peaceful) protests, if not in the neighborhood then at least at his future court appearances. That’s what occured in Riverside, CA when a family’s puppy was beaten to death by their neighbor. The victim’s family was able to put together an entire online campaign and protestors were ALWAYS at the alleged killer’s court appearances as well as outside the DA’s office I believe, so the case wouldn’t fade away. See justice4karley.com if you’re interested.

Surely the families who lost their precious pets will want to be present and make their voices heard at every one of his future court appearances?

Posted on 06/18/2009 at 9:32 PM

Brian says:

Even in jail, many of the hardest convicts find certain people as being unacceptably reprehensible: child molesters, those who hurt the elderly or infirmed, and ANIMAL ABUSERS. What’s the common thread here? Abusing the helpless! Tyler Weinman should go to jail, where he will hopefully have his pretty, white ass passed around like a cigarette. Black Muslims, the Aryan Nation, the Mexican Mafia…let them all have a turn! When they are done, they can all go to Prison Biology 101 and learn how to dissect a MONSTER!

Posted on 06/19/2009 at 1:40 AM

Maneshevitz says:

Judge Glazer stated that she read the arrest report and that she would rule that there was “Probable Cause” for the arrest. What gets me is that the first attorney (Macey) forcefully stated that Weinman was innocent and has now disappeared! Suddenly, a new attorney is representing Weinman and saying the same thing! I would like to know what happened here? Did Macey withdraw after seeing the evidence? Anyone have any insight?

Posted on 06/19/2009 at 2:14 AM

Gus says:

A recent post on Random Pixels sheds some light about why there hasn’t been more news coverage from mainstream media:

“Later this week the news directors of Miami’s TV news stations will announce in a joint statement that in an effort ensure that alleged serial cat-killer Tyler Weinman gets a fair trial, they will take the following steps:

- They will scale back coverage of the story to one report daily.

- They will not park live trucks on the street in front of the home of Weinman’s parents.

- The stations will refrain from using lurid and sensational on-screen graphics that identify Weinman as the “cat killer.” (CBS4 had a graphic this morning that read “Cat Killer Arrest”)

- All TV reporters covering this story will be instructed to only report facts they can verify.”

Arrest of cat killing suspect reveals a lot about Miami

Posted on 06/19/2009 at 8:35 AM

Doug says:

UPDATE: The Miami Herald is reporting that the judge will rule Friday if the affidavit can be made public.

Posted on 06/19/2009 at 11:29 AM

Maria de los Angeles says:

Brian—what do you mean? *WE* are the local media.

Posted on 06/19/2009 at 11:37 AM

Maneshevitz says:

The extreme publicity in this case can and will, probably be used in a motion for a mis-trial. The prosecutor will have to have solid evidence in order to convict. I think that scientific evidence (DNA) is about the only way they can convict, in a case without witnesses such as this

Posted on 06/19/2009 at 11:51 AM

Maria de los Angeles says:

It’s ridiculous to a) scapegoat this guy until a trial has come to pass and b) to want to inflict the same kind of violence on he/she/they/it/perpetrator when we are condemning acts of violence. 

What happened to the cats is/was horrible, but remember:  innocent until proven guilty is the backbone of our democratic society.  If you want to start stoning people or burning them at the stake, then please rewind a few centuries.

I’m glad the MSM is taking a step back on this.  This trial should be treated seriously—not like a Jerry Springer show.

Posted on 06/19/2009 at 12:14 PM

Aaron in Miramar says:

Gus—you missed the end of that post that read:

“It could happen.

And pigs could fly.”

I thought it seemed a bit far fetched that multiple news organizations would form some sort of collaborative agreement restraining their coverage in order to protect “the wheels of justice” on an animal cruetly case.

If it bleeds-it leads.

Posted on 06/19/2009 at 1:43 PM

Lisa says:

Yeah I agree with the post by Aaron, the media outlets will report on what they wish and what the public wants to know about.This is newsworthy and needs to stay prevalent in the media. I’m not from FL but in my local neighborhood, animal welfare groups will make sure to keep severe animal cruelty cases on their website and alert the newspapers so that they don’t fade from the public’s minds. That hasn’t interfered with trials as far as I know.  a decade ago we wouldn’t have had the opportunity to be aware of these cases on a nationwide level or voice our concern with them.the internet has made that possible.

i’m also going to back up what several on this site have said: the police had enough evidence to move forward with the arrest so i doubt it’s a scapegoat thing. According to the Sun Sentinel police questioned weinman about the killings May 15 during a traffic stop where they found weed and his suspended license.after the questioning all of a sudden the cat killings stopped in his mom’s neighborhood.  What a coincidence! Then they started up in the very same neighborhood his dad lives in. Wow, another major coincidence! And all those cat scratches on his body that police found, well the coincidences just keep adding up.

Posted on 06/19/2009 at 7:22 PM

Lisa says:

Oh and the proof (from the monitor placed on his car) that he also drove to the spots which the cats were killed.

Posted on 06/19/2009 at 7:27 PM

Brian says:

I wish I could be “optimistic” about justice being served in these cat mutilations. However, I am already seeing media “censorship” in the case against Weinman. Gee, I wonder why??? Could it be that his parents have big $$$‘s to spend on protecting this little sh*t. Of course, his parents will do all they can to protect their own interests. Daddy’s thriving dental practice and Dear Mommy’s life coaching business. I bet this kid won’t serve one day in jail! With or without DNA evidence, motion after motion will be filed by the scumbag attorneys representing Weinman, resulting in delay after delay. By that point, most of YOU will have forgotten about this case, and the Florida justice system will work a deal whereby Weinman gets probation. I’ve seen it happen way too many times. Far too often, $$$‘s = Freedom from Justice! Rich white kid, with well-connected parents goes FREE! When he “graduates” to killing humans, those of you who kept saying “let’s wait for more evidence” and have engaged in all of this “psychobabble” about rehabilitation will be shown as the true psychopaths.

Posted on 06/19/2009 at 8:27 PM

Doug says:

Brian, I don’t think the public is going to let Weinman off the hook that easily, if it turns out he’s been linked to the crimes through blood evidence.  I’m a little conflicted, myself: I believe the state has a responsibility to make the affidavit public in order to ensure that we don’t conduct secret tribunals in our justice system, but at the same time, I don’t want to jeopardize losing the possibility of bringing any possible accomplices to justice.  The accomplices might still be exposed by offering Weinman a plea bargain, but I don’t really want him to get one.

The latest news: Judge John Thornton, Jr. heard arguments today concerning the release of the affidavit, and the matter has been continued to next Wednesday.

Posted on 06/19/2009 at 9:35 PM

John in Boston says:

People believe every pop psychology thing they read, watch, or hear about sociopaths and psychopaths? Allot of the material falls under the category of urban myths. Just saying, because I’ve read stuff repeated over and over like it was the gospel truth.

The kid was obviously being closely watched for some time prior to his arrest. It explains his recent arrest(s); probably took the opportunity to stop his car while they were monitoring him when he performed some minor traffic violation, and then discovered weed, suspended licence.  They observed him skateboarding around at 2AM with a backpack, et al…...they couldn’t catch him in the act? Strange.

People keep on referring to his ‘smirk’...I don’t know, to me it looks like a smile, and many people smile inappropriately when they are nervous; although I will say he looks comfortable with the surroundings he finds himself in, which is suggestive because most people not familar with the legal system, i.e. arrests, jails, courts, are very upset and uncomfortable, but he isn’t.

As for being a ‘rich white boy’ well a ‘rich black boy’, or ‘rich Asian boy’ or ‘rich Hispanic boy’ and their ‘rich’ female counter-parts are just as capable and do receive similar treatment as him. His color has nothing to do with it; it’s his socio-economic background.

Plu, I wouldn’t describe him and his background as ‘rich’ unless you’re comparing him to someone living in a trailer park or the projects.

Posted on 06/20/2009 at 11:59 AM

John in Boston says:

We have similar situations up here occur, and even though Boston is very urban, it usually turns out a wild animal of some sort did the deed. I’ve observed snarky coyotes in my hood and believe me I live in as urban a neighborhood as you’ll find anywhere.

Posted on 06/20/2009 at 12:12 PM

John in Boston says:

It also would appear somebody ratted him out for the cops to have started watching him to begin with.

Posted on 06/20/2009 at 12:16 PM

Doug says:

John, the cats were found without any blood.  If an animal did it, it would probably have to have been a chupacabra.

Posted on 06/20/2009 at 12:56 PM

John says:

Or a vampire Doug wink

Check Tyler’s fangs

Seriously, if that’s true, then I suppose it would appear the carcass were moved around. But, you know animals (no9t just the human kind) do that. Just saying.

Posted on 06/20/2009 at 3:32 PM

Maria de los Angeles says:

John, if I recall correctly, there was evidence of skinning and mutilation that could only be done by a human with some kind of tool, ie, knife.  Also, who ever did this took it a step further by placing the cats in obvious places for shock factor, which an animal wouldn’t consciously do.  There seemed to be some ritualistic aspect to the way the cat bodies were left.  At least that’s what I gathered from the reports.

But you do make a good point, though.  Tyler here was only accused for some, not all of the cats, found.

I wonder, statistically, how many cats are found regularly who’ve been attacked by dogs or wild animals (we do have some feral foxes in that part of Miami).

Posted on 06/20/2009 at 3:40 PM

John in Boston says:

Maria, I’m kinda playing devil’s advocate a little here; the ritualistic display of the cat’s carcasses is nasty and obviously done by a human animal.

Weinman may very well be the savage who committed the atrocities. They say others may be involved? Seriously doubt it, but easier for the cops and prosecution; many criminal investigations ultimately hinge on someone ratting someone else out. Whatever, but it obviously takes a real sick puppy.

Posted on 06/20/2009 at 4:03 PM

John in Boston says:

If sunshine here did do what the cops are claiming, then that should give everyone the willies. This kid looks and acts like the epitome of ‘normal’

Posted on 06/20/2009 at 4:09 PM

Mike says:

Brian-
To your point about the public forgetting this case: that’s why the media needs to keep reporting so that that doesn’t happen.

As far as your point about him getting probation I pray this doesn’t happen. All violent crimes deserve jail time. But in Montana recently 24 pet cats were lured and tortured to death much like this case, and one of the killers only got sentenced to boot camp.

That’s why I hope the burglary counts stick: that crime carries more jail time than animal cruelty.

Lastly what did you mean Brian when you said the media has been displaying censorship around Weinman? I hope this isn’t true given all the police reports and evidence that has come to light so far. This is hardly a case of scapegoating, especially since tips came in back in May that it was Weinman and he’s been followed ever since.

Posted on 06/20/2009 at 8:32 PM

Ned Olsen says:

It would seem that Weinman isn’t the only one in need of a psychiatric evaluation here. The person named “Brian” who posted some of the above responses would do well with a comprehensive psychiatric evaluation. His violent talk and wish for cruel revenge against someone who is only suspected of committing a crime makes one wonder if he shouldn’t be the one who is locked up.

Posted on 06/21/2009 at 4:59 PM

Sarah, Vermont says:

Animal cruelty is a serious issue in our society but the media hardly reports on it because animal stories are often deemed “unimportant”.  Hundreds of animals suffer and die everyday at the hands of sick individuals. I would like to see more attention paid to the individual pets that people lost in this case. Write stories about each of them and their horrifying deaths, so people understand why there’s such outrage from the public. Maybe some of that info has to be kept under wraps for now pending the investigation but I hope it comes out eventually. The article below has some words from pet owner Nancy Mayes who lost her cat, Sheba. It reminds us that it’s not just 19 cats; they had names, they had families that loved them.

http://www.pet-abuse.com/cases/15514/FL/US/RSS/#UPDATES

Posted on 06/21/2009 at 9:48 PM

Brian says:

Yeah Ned!

Lock me up for expressing my First Amendment right to “free speech.” Perhaps you would like to “house” poor innocent Tyler in your own home? I think the majority of pet owners would like to see some sort of “cruel revenge” enacted upon this little psychopath. The evidence against him is overwhelming: scratches all over his body, consistent with a struggling cat; the fact that police monitored his movements via a tracking device placed upon his car, which put him at the scenes of the cat mutilations - a fact which Tyler denied, casting even further suspicion; the fact that these cat mutilations were all in close proximity to either his Mom’s or Dad’s house and the mutilations occurred during visits to these homes; the fact that the mutilations mysteriously stopped while he was incarcerated and have not started up again, etc., etc., etc. And let’s not forget the WAY these defenseless PETS were tortured and killed: skinning their bodies from the waist down, cutting pieces of their faces away, slicing them open from head to toe, and then placed in gruesome, staged positions on owners’ front yards, in some cases, with their intestines pouring out. What a lovely sight for the pet’s owners to take in!

But, okay Ned, let’s lock me up for expressing my desire for JUSTICE!

Posted on 06/21/2009 at 10:39 PM

Ned Olsen says:

You’re not a real bright bulb, are you, Brian? Ever heard of due process? I’m not in any way justifying what Weinman may have done. But you need to get some psychiatric help before your rage gets you in some real trouble.

Posted on 06/22/2009 at 12:32 AM

Oscar says:

Thanks Doug!! And, well said Aaron in Miramar.

Posted on 06/22/2009 at 1:56 AM

Brian says:

Okay Ned? The jig’s up!

Which are you?: 1.) Tyler’s Dad?; or 2.) Tyler’s defense attorney?

Posted on 06/22/2009 at 2:10 AM

Brian says:

I’m going to take a step back and defer on any future comments about Weinman until hearing further evidence about the case. I still think, based on what I have heard so far, that Weinman is guilty. But, I will try to maintain “faith” in the legal process and hope that justice is served, per what the law allows.

Posted on 06/22/2009 at 5:27 PM

Brian says:

p.s. apologies if any of my previous posts were offensive.

Posted on 06/22/2009 at 6:53 PM

Doug says:

No worries, Brian! I think everyone’s emotions are running a little high right now.  Hopefully we’ll get some more information soon, and we’ll be able to have some closure.

Posted on 06/22/2009 at 7:29 PM

Cat Von D says:

I would just like to say… THIS is why I am a strictly indoors-only cat owner! There is a lot I would like to say about this case, but most of it has already been said on various message boards. My two cents: *When* he is proven guilty, they need to lock his arse up with the biggest fudger in the joint and throw away the key! Harsh sentencing is a MUST if we want to set a strong precedent and hopefully deter future copycats (horrific pun intended). I’d hate to see this turn into another Kenny Glenn (Justice for Dusty) sham. Video evidence of this little snotty brat beating his cat, and he got off with the proverbial slap on the wrist. Let’s not let it happen again.

I think the labs should be checking for various pharmaceuticals and tranquilizers, as well as poison. What’s that recreational drug that’s actually a horse tranquilizer? They should also try to check the cats’ claws for (Tyler’s) skin particles, since he was all clawed up. I wonder if anyone’s sent them copies of any books by Randall Lockwood, Ph.D.?

Posted on 06/23/2009 at 6:24 AM

Doug says:

Hi Cat Von D, I try to be an indoor only cat owner, too, but my cats treat me like I’m imprisoning them if I won’t let them out to prowl around the yard.  They seem so happy when I do let them out; they run out the door and start eating grass.  What gets me are the people that believe these cat owners had it coming for letting their pets go outside. 

Good ideas on the forensics testing.  I wonder how much of that they’ve done already and when the results will be in…

Posted on 06/23/2009 at 6:45 AM

Sarah, Vermont says:

I looked up the Dusty case that Cat Von D mentioned and it seems that with the research of 1 person (maybe more?), all of the abuser’s personal info, home address, etc was found and posted on the internet. Once the kid was arrested the kitty was placed in a new home. I’m not sure what kind of punishment the legal system doled out to the abuser but he’s probably received a lot of anger from the public. It’s an interesting case because it was the public’s involvement that helped get this guy arrested and the cat saved from further abuse. Clearly public involvement in animal cruelty cases can make a difference.

Posted on 06/24/2009 at 12:11 AM

Brian says:

Thanks Doug!

You noted in an earlier post that Judge Thornton Jr. had continued the affidavit matter to Wednesday. (today). Have you heard anything more on the matter? Was a ruling made or more postponements?
Thanks!

Posted on 06/24/2009 at 6:12 PM

Doug says:

Well, it looks like the judge decided today that the affidavit will remain sealed until July 6—that’s when the arraignment is scheduled.  Even if the arraignment is postponed, the documents will still be released.  The reason he’s decided against releasing them now is because other suspects are named in the indictment, and the police need more time to build their cases against those suspects.

Posted on 06/24/2009 at 6:26 PM

Brian says:

Thanks for the update!

This case sounds even more disturbing now!  To think that a “gang” of alleged cat killers might have been running around, capturing, torturing and mutilating cats. It was already strange enough for any ONE person to have allegedly been responsible for this. But, now, with prosecutors asking for the affidavit to be kept sealed so that they have time to investigate “other” possible suspects is really troubling. If there are other suspects involved, I wonder what role they might have played? I also wonder if Tyler might have turned dime on them, in exchange for a possible reduced sentence? Of course, there is always the possibility that Tyler is lying to detectives about the involvement of others. Just some of the thoughts going through my mind.

Posted on 06/24/2009 at 6:42 PM

Doug says:

In away, things look more optimistic for a conviction now, because other named suspects will be more likely to be persuaded to spill the beans on each other.  On the downside, that also means a greater possibility for a plea bargain, though.  The fact that the suspects are named is also a good sign.

Posted on 06/24/2009 at 7:32 PM

Mike says:

This is extremely disheartening. It was bad enough when it was 1 deranged, violent kid out there but now we have to worry about others who don’t value life and get a kick from hurting the defenseless. This is just like the recent Montana case, where it was 3 people who got together to hunt and torture pet cats for “fun”.

Posted on 06/24/2009 at 8:53 PM

Doug says:

Mike, unfortunately, if you read the comments after a lot of the online coverage on Tyler Weinman, you’ll see many posts by deranged people praising his actions.  Some of them may just be seeking attention, but it does make you wonder.

Posted on 06/24/2009 at 9:09 PM

AskingQuestions says:

Sungul (above) wrote, “It’s interesting that there were sudden dog attacks in the area at the same time the evil cat killer was operating. I wonder if he is behind those as well.”

One MIGHT wonder if the dogs are behind the ones Tyler is charged with “as well.”

6/13/09 a.m.—Miami Dade Animal Control captures two stray pit bulls, one “very aggressive,” video shows clear (deep) defensive wounds on the dog’s faces consistent with cat scratches… M-D Animal Control states that the hpe the community will start to relax now that these two dog are off the street… M-D police concede that 14 of 33 cases are attributable to wild dogs/animals (almost 50% of the cases) and how, please tell us, did they deduce which is which? (i.e. human VS animal predator)  Scientific testing (necropsy/autopsy) of remains is necessary to determine who or what killed the cats, not “eyeballing” them.

In order for us to be fair, we should consider other possibilities.  A lot of research, a pulling-together of similarly-described “cat mutilations,” from across the country has been done at Facebook page, “Tyler Weinman did not kill 19 cats.” Please, overlook the group name and check out how the incidents were described elsewhere (identically to the descriptions in S Fl)... All those cases were later (after proper testing) discovered to be “wild animal predation.”

If Tyler did these things, he should definitely be punished, but the more you look at the alternative, the less likely it seems.

Last point: Tyler is said to be a pet owner, to have been observed as very good around animals, to be “loved” by others’ animals, and to “love animals.”  This certainly does NOT fit the usual cruelty to animals persona…

Posted on 06/25/2009 at 7:37 PM

LittleD says:

AskingQuestions - Wild animals don’t mutilate animals in the same way these cats were mutilated, obviously done by human hands.  Furthermore, wild animals don’t pose their prey back in their owners’ yards for shock effect later.

Posted on 06/25/2009 at 8:05 PM

AskingQuestions says:

LittleD - In other cases (Colorado, Utah, Texas, etc), no one there thought so either. Killings were described EXACTLY as they have been described in S Fl.  (including; “surgical precision,” “posed,” etc. Everyone was convinced due to how the remains “looked” that it had to be the work of a sick person. Turns out instead that foxes, dogs, coyotes… were the actual culprits. Imagine THEIR surprise.

Please read the articles before condemning this young man.

Posted on 06/25/2009 at 8:34 PM

AskingQuestions says:

Animal lovers are good and decent people. (I know, I am one lol) To be true to our nature, we owe this young man the benefit of the doubt until actual evidence is produced.

First and foremost, M-D needs to either run the forensic tests, or release the results supporting their theory, if they have already done so.

~Peace

Posted on 06/25/2009 at 8:51 PM

AskingQuestions says:

(by “forensic tests” I am, of course, referring to proper examinations of the remains of these cats.)

Posted on 06/25/2009 at 8:53 PM

Doug says:

WFOR is announcing that the affidavit will be unsealed tomorrow.  According to the story, if convicted, he could serve more than a decade behind bars, which is a bit at odds with the Sun-Sentinel’s report thatt he could serve five years per cat.

Posted on 07/05/2009 at 1:09 PM

Doug says:

The affidavit was released this morning.  You can read it here in its entirety.  No word on the results of the lab work—that could be the crucial factor.

Posted on 07/06/2009 at 1:03 PM

Maneshevitz says:

The Affiant states that “he believes” an arrest warrant be issued. This, even though all of the ‘evidence’ is circumstantial. I would like to see some ‘air-tight’ evidence and a better, more thorough investigation. The affidavit to me is typical sloppy police work and the arrest was made too soon. Give the kid enough rope and he would undoubtedly hang himself. As the case proceeds, it is a good bet that he will get off and laugh about it!

Posted on 07/06/2009 at 11:45 PM

Mike says:

Read the affidavit and was surprised at how much personal info was made public rather than being blacked out, Weinman’s address, cell phone #, victims’ addresses, etc.

Anyway, what I don’t get is how can no one know where the cats were killed? It says for each of the 19 that they were already dead and mutilated before being brought back to the owner’s lawn. It’s an absolutely horrible thought, but how could no one have heard the poor cries of the animals being killed? There is nothing in Weinman’s car as evidence that the cats were there when he captured them? I just can’t understand why there’s no information on where the animals were murdered. Surely someone heard something.

Posted on 07/07/2009 at 1:32 AM

Warren says:

Mike, that’s because no one “murdered” the cats. 50 to 60 pets (I assume a large number of cats) a month get killed in Miami Dade by roaming dogs or by being run over by autos (600-700+ a year). That figure is posted on the Palmetto Bay Fla. Mayors website. All the cats were most likely killed nearby and moved by the dogs that killed them or other scavengers to where they were found. There are many explanations of how dead cats can be found with no blood. If you search around the net, there are literally thousands of similar cases where at first, human serial cat killers are blamed for these dead cats, but later, through thorough examination, authorities realize that other animals had killed the cats.  This sounds like one of those cases.

Posted on 07/09/2009 at 11:47 PM

Maria de los Angeles says:

Hey Doug, get a load of this one: http://www.palmbeachpost.com/localnews/content/local_news/epaper/2009/07/14/0714catkiller.html

Dude kills cat with bow and arrow

Posted on 07/14/2009 at 5:30 PM

Doug says:

I’m glad they caught him, at least.  What is it with people named Tyler and cats?

I wonder when the lab results are going to come back in the Weinman case…

Posted on 07/14/2009 at 6:05 PM

Alan Sherman says:

Tyler is being railroaded. there’s no direct physical evidence he killed any cats, even after the police placed a tracker on his car and were tailing him for weeks. tyler is innocent.

Posted on 07/15/2009 at 8:35 AM

Maneshevitz says:

Say it over and over and over,“tyler is innocent”! How would you know? I’ll wait for the evidence at the trial and I hope it is air tight.

Posted on 07/18/2009 at 6:55 PM

KT says:

While I am in no way saying Tyler is definitely guilty, I have to ask the people saying these were all done by animals if they have actually read the affidavit? The second example listed clearly states there were two slain cats, one sliced up the middle of the belly with a sharp instrument, Found May 10 inside a fenced-in yard. The third example from May 13th was also left inside of a fence (missing the top part of its mouth). An example from May 14 was also inside a fenced yard, again missing the top of its face. May 18th inside a fence, skinned. Wild animals do not magically transport themselves inside of fences to dispose of uneaten carcasses, nor do they pick the top half of a head as an area to prey upon; they go for meaty areas like bellies and legs. The first example was even a cat that had gone missing for 13 days before being found with its head crushed in front of the owners’ house. It is possible, but very unlikely that the cat would stray from home for so long, only to appear in such a manner. It seems more likely that someone had captured it and perhaps observed it for a time, before returning it in its end state. Again, some of these may in fact be victims of dogs or wild animals, but that cannot account for some of the damage done and the placement of the bodies. Someone murdered these animals. Whether it was Tyler or not, I can’t say, but no animal did all these. I will leave the rest up to the DNA evidence on his “cutting instruments.” However, if he is truly innocent, he could help himself out some by not appearing so smug every time he is photographed. It reminds me of all the images of Ted Bundy when he was in jail or representing himself in trial, that nasty little smirk. Here’s hoping for the truth, whatever it is.

Posted on 07/20/2009 at 6:56 PM

Doug says:

According to court papers released today, Tyler Weinman made a partial confession of his involvement in the cat killings.  He reportedly said:

``OK, so let me see if I understand. As long as I tell you about the cats that I did, you can get rid of the others?’’—according to an article in today’s Miami Herald.  The rest of the interview was cut short when he stated that he wanted his attorney to be involved.  A definite blow for those who believe the killings were the work of animals.

Posted on 07/29/2009 at 8:58 PM

Mike says:

To be blunt, the Weinman quotes in the article show what a little POS he really is. Trying to get a deal on a drug charge after he committed repeated violent acts because he “doesn’t really like jail”? What wonderful karma it would be if he wound up in a jail cell for a while and can sit there and think about what he did.  He needs to be made to take responsibility for ALL of the charges. 

Also we all know that the (few) people on this site who claimed animals were responsible for the cat murders were always either: 1. completely in denial 2. Weinman apologists(family or friends perhaps?) or 3. trolls trying to upset animal lovers and those who favor logic

Posted on 07/30/2009 at 6:48 PM

PlJ says:

There are so many points I want/need to touch on here…

Section 1: Cops don’t usually just willy-nilly arrest someone.  They tracked Weinman’s moves for several weeks and have a strong circumstantial case against him.  The old saying is “If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and looks like a duck, you’ve got a duck.”  That being said, sometimes you don’t have a duck.  At this stage of the game, I (and I emphasize the word “I”), believe the police have a duck. I will wait for forensic evidence etc., but I do believe at this stage of the game “we’ve got a duck”.

Section 2*:  Several of the mutilated cats were “re”-located onto the owners’ property, which was fenced.  I live in a very rural area, filled with fox, coydogs, bobcat, lynx, and a whole other host of wildlife.  In my 30+ years of living here, I have never found an animal (excluding a human) intelligent enough to repatriate a carcass.  Beleive me, I have lost several cats to the natural wildlife here and never encountered what has been described in the news reports.*** 


Section 3:  A wild animal will not catch a cat and vivisect it. Several of these cats show signs of having been been vivisected.  Weinman took a class in school(before being expelled) on disection.  Because I believe he committed these atrocities, I DO use the word vivisection as opposed to the word disection (something the authorities should take note of).


As to Weinman being a “sociopath”.  With all the research I’ve done (and I’m the first to admit I am NO expert), I do believe that he is one (and I make this statement on my conviction that he is guilty of what he is accused of). Ted Bundy, Jeffrey Dahmer and those like them all started with animals.  Not all animal torturers are sociopaths, but all sociopaths were animal abusers/torturers. 


I reiterate that I AM NOT an expert on sociopathic behaviour, but I can tell you that I am dealing with my own “sociopathic” neighbor.
 

Section 4:  My next door neighbor has taken to killing the neighborhood cats.  We had a nice, peaceful area until the NFH moved in X amount of years ago (we live in a VERY rural community (we don’t even lock our doors)).  Just after “HE” moved in, neighnorhood cats started turning up dead.  Because of this my husband and I set up surveillance cameras.  Unfortunately it took three years and several dead cats before we finally caught him on tape (SHOOTING a cat on MY property). 

The case is now (almost a year later) FINALLY going to trial.

I’d also like to state that this man is “in the system”.  I know for a fact that he can’t own a firearm (he used an air rifle to kill the cat, so escaped the charge of being in possession of a firearm), and he has a social worker at his house once a week.  I also now for a fact that he has served jail time, although I am not sure of why.  He also talks to his kids in a way I wouldn’t talk to an animal.  If audiotaping wasn’t illegal…

Section 5:  As to those who try to blame irresposible pet owners…not everything is always as apparent as it seems!!!  I live on a dead end street…three houses…I’m the one in the middle.  When the house (off the major road) went vacant, people felt it was safe to drop unwanted cats in my dooryard (they wouldn’t get caught doing it).  I have asked both the local animal shelter and vet to work with me on spaying/neutering these cats so they don’t multiply…the response has been zero,zip, nada.  I AM a responsible pet owner, one indoor kitty (fixed and only allowed outside on a specially designed cat harness and leash)!!!  Backtracking just a hair, I also called the animal control officer and he is willing to take the cats/kittens, but will “exexute them” by shotgun.  Thanks, but no thanks.  I struggle along the best I can.
 

 

* A wild animal will not return its prey to the owners property after devouring ‘what it “likes”’. 
Let’s say a wild animal caught the cat on it’s (the cats) own property, the (aggressor) would not stay there with it.  It would drag/carry it back to it’s own “comfort zone” to eat it.

***Within the second summer of the NFH moving in, I had cat carcasses “placed” next to my porch; gutted, as if he used them for bait for his rottweiller (even the local sheriff was appalled).  This was when I finally installed the surveillance cameras.  If it wasn’t for those cameras we may have never been able to catch him and be able to prove our case.

Posted on 08/13/2009 at 9:37 PM

Leslie says:

He terrorized an entire community. Why isn’t he tried for terrorism as well?

Posted on 08/28/2009 at 11:59 AM

PlJ says:

Leslie,

I agree wholeheartedly.

Posted on 09/04/2009 at 11:20 PM

LittleD says:

Anyone know where this case stands?

Posted on 09/18/2009 at 3:41 PM

Doug says:

Hi LittleD, there hasn’t been a lot of word about it lately, but the trial should be coming up in October.

Posted on 09/18/2009 at 6:34 PM

LittleD says:

Okay, thanks Doug!

Posted on 09/18/2009 at 6:39 PM

Jore says:

Keep torturing innocent people and do not write about them, instead write about cats.

Posted on 10/19/2009 at 3:34 AM

jhon says:

Nothing I love more than seeing a flat cat laying in the middle of the road,  LOL

Posted on 10/19/2009 at 9:31 PM

Smiles says:

He should be sent to prison with a bar of soap to be violated by bikers then tortured and killed.

At least thats my fantasy. <3

Posted on 10/27/2009 at 5:00 AM

PlJ says:

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/sfl-weinman-trial-bn110209,0,3470213.story?track=rss

He is scheduled to appear in court for those charges on Nov. 10.

Posted on 11/08/2009 at 8:13 AM

Doug says:

Hi PlJ, thanks for the update! I was wondering why we hadn’t heard anything in October.

Posted on 11/08/2009 at 12:03 PM

Doug says:

UPDATE: A judge has ruled that Weiman can go to Orlando for Thanksgiving, and may also leave his house to go to the gym.

Posted on 11/10/2009 at 1:53 PM

PLJ says:

I can’t vocalize the thoughts that are running through my mind right now for legal reasons.  Then again I can fantasize about some sort of bench-press accident happening, or maybe a barbell accident.

Posted on 11/10/2009 at 8:56 PM

Lily says:

This young man is obviously F_ed in the head.  He will keep this stuff up.  He should be jailed for years and forcibly put on psychoactive drugs, given intense therapy and electroshock.  Maybe he needs to be castrated as well.

Posted on 11/26/2009 at 8:05 PM

PLJ says:

It seems that the general consensus here is that there is something fundamentally wrong with Tyler’s “wiring”.  For those interested in the subject may I recommend two excellent books…the first is “The Sociopath Next Door” by Martha Stout PhD. and the second is “Without Conscience” by Robert D. Hare PhD. 

I was informed about these books (through an NFH site) because I am suffering through my own “Tyler Weinman” so to speak, and I can’t believe how accurate these books are (spot on as the British would say). 

For those who do actually read them, you will be astounded to find out that YOU actually know, or at least have had contact with, a true sociopath.

Posted on 11/29/2009 at 5:38 PM

Doug says:

Thanks PLJ! Is there a brief list of tell tale signs if we can’t get to the books right away?

Posted on 11/30/2009 at 6:02 PM

PLJ says:

Doug,

The link will take you to a wiki article that talks about the standard checklist used nowadays and created by the author of the second book (Without Conscience). 

Here are the links from amazon to order the books:
http://www.amazon.com/Sociopath-Next-Door-Martha-Stout/dp/0767915828/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1259625580&sr=1-1

http://www.amazon.com/Without-Conscience-Disturbing-World-Psychopaths/dp/1572304510/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1259625619&sr=1-1

Posted on 11/30/2009 at 7:01 PM

PLJ says:

Here’s another good article to check out:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy

Posted on 11/30/2009 at 7:33 PM

PLJ says:

I just realized I never put the initial wiki link, so here it is:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hare_Psychopathy_Checklist

(Sorry, just tired and stressed)

Posted on 11/30/2009 at 7:50 PM

Maneshevitz says:

What is the status of this case after 6 months?
Any idea of trial date? Is Weinman still in the USA? Has there been an “under-table” deal????

Posted on 01/06/2010 at 10:38 PM

B. Timko says:

Hello, I am A animal lover from Miami Florida. I am concerned that the cat killer,
Tyler Hayes Weinman, Will not receive the Full penalty of the law(158 years).Serial
Killers such as Jeffrey Dahmer, Ted Bundy, David Berkowitz, and Albert DiSalvo
(The Boston Strangler) are known to have killed and tortured animals before

moving on to their human victims. Obviously, there are many factors that lead

someone to murder or serial killing, but that constant link is animal abuse.

  It has been researched and noted by the FBI that there is a correlation between

serial killers and animal abuse/torture. They have linked animal cruelty to

domestic violence, child abuse and serial killings.

  A study done by North Eastern University and the Massachusetts SPCA found that

people who abuse animals are five times more likely to abuse humans than

people who do not.

  I would like to see Tyler Weinman sentenced to A minium of one year in

prison(hopefully many more). This would make him A felon under florida law, and

would make it illegal for him to own or posess any firearms or any other deadly

weapons. It would also keep him under law enforcements scrutiny for the rest of

his life.

  To this end I am going to list his judges contact information, and also the link to

the Dade County Clerk of the Courts web page so you are able to keep up with his

next court dates. Also included is A list of his charges.

  Please feel free to contact the judge and/or his assistant with A list of you’re

concerns.


Dade County Clerk of the Courts:

http://www2.miami-dadeclerk.com/cjis/CaseSearch.aspx

On this web page click on “Case Number” and enter F-09-019761


Judges Contact information:

Name:  John W. Thornton
Phone: (305)548-5110
E-Mail: .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)
Address: Richard E. Gerstein
          Justice Building
          1351 N.W. 12 Street
          Miami Florida 33125
          Room-424

  His adminstrative assistants name is Sonja Smith

Posted on 01/14/2010 at 12:23 PM

Doug says:

Thanks for the information, B. Timko.  I would only add that if he is found guilty for these crimes, that I hope he gets a lot more than just one year!

Posted on 01/14/2010 at 3:35 PM

Confused says:

An article last week said “The case against Weinman is largely circumstantial and could rely on the results of DNA tests being conducted on several knives and scalpels seized during a search of Weinman’s home. If the tests do not link those knives to any of the dead cats, the case against Weinman would likely fall apart.”

http://cbs4.com/local/tyler.weinman.college.2.1437665.html

They sure are dragging this out.  It’s been over 7 months!  How long can it take to conduct DNA tests on knives and scalpels?  With all the publicity on this case, they should have had the results back sooner than this!  Have they found any evidence linking him to the cats or not?

Posted on 01/24/2010 at 2:06 PM

Doug says:

The latest news: no DNA matches so far…

Posted on 02/23/2010 at 12:12 PM

Maneshevitz says:

Time is on his side. The longer they drag this out, the better chance he has to get off. And then the goozy trial lawyers will probably file a false arrest lawsuit.

Posted on 02/26/2010 at 3:03 PM

PLJ says:

As much as I hate to say it, Maneshevitz probably has it pegged.  If not for video proof of my NFH shooting my cat, we’d probably be in the same boat.  After dragging out the case for 14 months, the NFH changed his plea from “not guilty” to “nolo contendre”, and the charges were reduced from 2 counts “aggravated animal cruelty” (felonies), to 1 count animal cruelty (misdemeanor).  Final outcome was anger management; cannot harm or kill any animal, wild or domestic, for two years; and vet bill reimbursement to me. 
Not one to normally swear, but what an F’ing joke.

Posted on 02/26/2010 at 6:01 PM

Frank T. says:

you people are all idiots! how many cats and dogs are loose in this town or any town in the world and end up dead by the side of the road from cars hitting them? who gets blamed for that? ok! lets arrest anyone who drives a car!

Posted on 02/28/2010 at 5:05 AM

PLJ says:

Frank,

We are talking about someone who sadistically tortured these cats.  The four counts of burglary stemmed from the fact that those cats were INSIDE of the owners home, but removed, only to be killed and gutted and then their corpse left in the owners yard.  Check out the two books I posted above and here’s a couple of links you may find interesting:  http://www.apsu.edu/oconnort/crim/crimtheory08.htm  and http://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/prod/PARLMENT/hansart.nsf/V3Key/LC20001011042

Posted on 02/28/2010 at 7:53 AM

Lyndsay says:

So, let’s say this kid gets off.

in how many months/years will we find out women are going missing? 

I give it 10 years before we hear about him again.  and then they’ll say “we had the chance to catch him then…”

Let’s not forget that he killed these cats out of anger toward his stepmother. How soon before he’s taking it out on actual women that remind him of her? They tend to pick their victims for certain reasons.

You can’t reform or medicate a sociopath, you just can’t. No amount of treatment will help. This kid needs to be locked away - he’s a future Ted Bundy waiting to happen.  The cats were just a practice run.

Posted on 02/28/2010 at 7:18 PM

Maneshevitz says:

It would appear that Florida has some real lame brains in their criminal justice system. Prompt attention to laboratory findings of DNA evidence should be paramount, but the usual bungling of GUVMINT Dr. Dunce always seems to rear its ugly head! And, we must always excuse Dr. Dunce and the bureaucracy because these unionized bunglers are always “over-worked”! And then it is no wonder why we have so much rampant crime. Its time to shoot first and ask questions later!

Posted on 03/04/2010 at 11:31 PM

Doug says:

More charges filed in the Tyler Weinman case...
Apparently, the authorities left out two cats?

Posted on 03/24/2010 at 1:07 PM

Doug says:

The latest in the Tyler Weinman case: the DNA results are in, and authorities have been unable to find any DNA or fur from the mutilated cats on any of the objects collected from Tyler Weinman.  Nonetheless, they feel they have enough evidence to proceed with the case.

Posted on 05/27/2010 at 12:11 AM

Dave41 says:

Update?  Im amazed at how fast ppl forget….

Posted on 06/14/2010 at 8:09 PM

Philip7 says:

It has now been about one year since the initial arrest.  I’ve not heard of any conviction.  I second the call for an update.  Is it true that the GPS readings from the suspect’s vehicle matched the locations and times of the killings?  (Just hearsay from the web.)  If he is in fact guilty (it seems so, given the fact that no further killings occurred), I do hope he is convicted soon!

Posted on 06/15/2010 at 2:28 AM

jackdrake says:

Human serival killers seem to develop in this pattern, showing cruelty to animals and even killing them.  Intelligence is a factor also.  Outward going, friendly can be part of the fitting in with the local surroundings.  One very famous and proficient serial killer from early 1980,s California (35 to 65 murders approx.), was a successful computer management or consultant person.  An exexcuted warrant of his home and belongings could have turned up the cutting tool, dna from cats on shoes, clothes, etc.  If this is truly the perpetrator, then I hope he gets multiple counts to 20 or more years.  Because the future killings may likely be humans.

Posted on 06/15/2010 at 2:34 AM

janice says:

please tell me what happened in this case was this man tyler convicted?  don’t see the fl.news. I don’t know if he did this or not but what I do know is that if he had to do time and a cat come on the prison yard he would see that when you are lonely a cat is a lot of company, yet the sad thing is he would pet it but never bond. I hope this guy didn’t do this yet if he did, you are a sick fuc.. not scarey but sick, and you are not interesting , in fact you are not important if you did this.

Posted on 06/15/2010 at 2:44 AM

Maneshevitz says:

“A right to a speedy trial”???? This defense will be used, and is coming soon as a tool by Weinberg’s attorney. His attorney will argue that since he did not get a “speedy trial”, the case is defective and should be dismissed. Watch for it to happen sooner or later.

Posted on 06/16/2010 at 7:47 PM

Paige says:

i don’t live anywhere near miami in fact i don’t even live in america but this case has disturbed me somewhat, however having read that there is no DNA evidence against tyler what are the police and courts now using against him?

and are there any updates on this case?

Posted on 06/21/2010 at 4:22 AM

Jolgo says:

Good lord there are some ignorant people in the world.

Posted on 11/23/2010 at 3:46 PM

Doug says:

UPDATE: Authorities announced this afternoon that all charges against Tyler Weinman have been dropped after two state experts stated that they believed at least some of the killings were done by large dogs.  Please join our discussion in the forum at:

http://forums.miamibeach411.com/general-discussion/8067-all-charges-dropped-against-tyler-weinman-accused-miami-cat-killer.html#post82313

Posted on 11/24/2010 at 8:07 PM

jj says:

what people dont understand is that pets are family to people.  maybe a gift from someone that passed on, or if they cant have kids they have pets, and a pet can be symbolic and used as a gift for lonliness or just to be there for a person.  i know few families that have had death or depression and a pet is what they needed to help them get by in their rough times when they didnt want people.  so what gives a person outside that home the right to choose if they should take a pets life and take the cat away from their owner.  i feel animal abuse happens so much but the punishment isnt enough for the life of the animal taken.  who is the right to judge if its just an animal and its life isnt worth a severe harsh punishment.  i wish it was an eye for an eye but with the rights and laws people get away with so much less that what they should get when killing a person or even a pet.  whatever his background was who cares punish him to the max and make animal abuse laws abuse is abuse death is death no one has the right to take a life.

Posted on 01/17/2011 at 4:09 PM

Me says:

I know this is old news apparently, but the best resolve in this case would have been to drag him to his front yard, beat him in the head a couple of hits, hold him down and skin him alive, then put him in a pose and let him die.  PROBLEM SOLVED.

Posted on 06/24/2012 at 1:49 AM

krittermom says:

Call me cruel but I think if he is found guilty in a court of law he should get the death penalty.  A sadistic mind like his will only mature into a more horrendous adult!  This is one human being that our world can do without!
Also, I have spent my life working with and sharing my life with animals and in my experience cats do not have to wonder outside alone.
I have adopted many feral cats in my life and once they came to live with me they never were allowed to roam freely outside again.  You just have to be as persistent as the cat you are dealing with and they can be trained to be indoor only!
It is our job as cat/pet parents to do what is best for their long term health!

Posted on 06/26/2014 at 2:21 PM

Doug says:

Krittermom, this story was from 2009.  Tyler has since been exonerated from the crimes as there was no reliable evidence that he was ever involved.  At the time I wrote this, he was only a suspect.  I don’t think we’ll ever get a conclusive answer to what happened here.

Posted on 06/26/2014 at 6:33 PM

Todd Solley says:

It’s sad that people are seeking vengence against an 18 year old kid.  Justice would be getting Tyler the help he needs IF he is found guilty.  Judging by some of these comments, some of you are as bloodthirsty as the perpetrator of these crimes.  For those wanting to demonize him and picket his home, how about praying for him and his family.

Posted on 11/21/2014 at 11:06 PM

Todd Solley says:

I just read that the kid was exonerated.  I didn’t see the dates originally and am not sure how this article popped up in my “news” feed; but, I felt like the kid was innocent.  I hope all those people who wished Tyler ill feel bad about it.  But I doubt they do.  It’s a sad commentary on the world we live in.  Why don’t you remove this article from the web.  I think it’s terrible that this article is still up and the kid was innocent.  Did you write a big article about Tyler’s exoneration? Did you do any follow up articles on how he was affected by these awful accusations? I sure hope so.

Posted on 11/21/2014 at 11:18 PM

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